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Fishing Talk => Fishing Talk => : lamnidae February 24, 2016, 08:43:55 p

: Scoping beaches
: lamnidae February 24, 2016, 08:43:55 p
Just wanted to ask advice.
When looking at potential beaches to fish for grinders and stingers, do you guys look for the same signs as surf fishing  like nice holes, dropoffs, troughs, etc? Or do you set up on beaches near reef edges and known dropoffs outside the breakers?

You guys are the experts and my rate of actually shark fishing the surf is minimal right now. But when I do, I want to know the signs.
I understand the the large waves and seaweed factors, but the others are what I'm interested in.
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: sasquatch February 25, 2016, 04:09:00 p
 All of the above. Reefs hold food, holes hold food. The more structure there is the better I like it. A deep area, near a reef, with a trough that leads out to sea is nice to find.
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: Latimeria February 25, 2016, 06:09:48 p
As Steve said, any place that holds baitfish... which also holds the bigger fish (bait) for the sharks.  I usually accept a place as a possible shark spot if I catch a bass, lobster, eel, rockfish etc...  Almost every time I put my dues in and worked a spot for multiple sessions, I've got a shark there. 
Putting the time in is harder than it looks, but that definitely increases the law of averages!
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: Eric H February 25, 2016, 07:47:32 p
Yes to all the above,  inlets are nice too.
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: Eric H February 25, 2016, 07:55:23 p
Kelp forests too,  I've found  a couple just outside casting range..
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: spideyjg February 25, 2016, 09:00:04 p
Go visit them at super low tides and high.

Low to see structure, high to see if it is accessible. Been to some that you have to bail as the tide comes up to not get cut off from where you came in.

Jim
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: Chris February 25, 2016, 12:08:59 p
I usually just drive around till I see some long rods on the beach or a familiar truck. Drop a pin then come back later.  ;D

The usual signs are 11-13ft surf rods, 1-3 dudes standing around with hands in their pockets and it's usually a really good find if they have aluminum or heavy duty metal rod holders.
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: WheresMyBeer February 25, 2016, 12:18:04 p
LMAO Chris ... ;D ;D
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: sasquatch February 25, 2016, 12:21:06 p
That got a laugh here too.
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: Pinoyfisher February 25, 2016, 01:32:19 p
GPS tracking devices help a bunch!
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: Chris February 26, 2016, 07:31:36 p
While it is funny it does happen and there's at least two people here guilty of it. Not including myself. I've ran across people fishing specialized gear while out and about and of course I had to see if the area was good or not.  ;D
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: Pinoyfisher February 26, 2016, 08:57:44 p
: Chris  February 26, 2016, 07:31:36 p
While it is funny it does happen and there's at least two people here guilty of it. Not including myself. I've ran across people fishing specialized gear while out and about and of course I had to see if the area was good or not.  ;D

Guilty

But it was more of an accident than actively searching. Google Earth is my friend, along with a good buddy system of a very small number of anglers willing to share info as they know I can keep my mouth shut.
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: Latimeria February 26, 2016, 09:08:28 p
I am the Ninja....  You are the Walrus.  ;D
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: sasquatch February 26, 2016, 10:19:28 p
: Chris  February 26, 2016, 07:31:36 p
While it is funny it does happen and there's at least two people here guilty of it. Not including myself. I've ran across people fishing specialized gear while out and about and of course I had to see if the area was good or not.  ;D

I've done it. Not going out looking, but seeing while I'm out and about.  Saw some guys with big gear including a 12" gap gaff. I've fished the spot before without much action, but now I wonder.
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: Eric H February 26, 2016, 10:27:58 p
When I was cruising the coast in ventura I saw two old timers with huge custom sand spikes with their old school conventionals sitting 10 ft in the air. Damn right I stopped and shot the sh!t with them. I already knew it was a slightly known 7gill spot. Asked them what they were going for and they said 7s, also said they catch the occasional black sea bass there too.
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: spideyjg February 26, 2016, 10:32:03 p
Google Earth is my best friend too. Watch the elevations because what appears to be a promising location may butt right up against a bluff. As the tide comes in you may get pushed into a uncastable scenario and depending on tides/surf maybe a dangerous one.

You can drag the street view guy down and drop him on some beaches to see how thin it may be.

Surfline cams good to scope current conditions. Watch for salad mounds on the sand in addition to the surf and the amount of Moes in the water.

Jim
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: WheresMyBeer February 26, 2016, 11:29:32 p
Google earth and street view for sure. Think I've even spotted the "Squatch" before ...
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: lamnidae February 26, 2016, 06:35:52 p
Great advice. I've looked at Google Earth and Maps, looked at NOAA charts up along the beach, read various fishing books and online blogs.
I believe having buddy connections is the best up to date information one can have.
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: Eric H February 26, 2016, 07:54:02 p
X2

Google earth.
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: vdisney February 27, 2016, 07:32:21 p
Do yourself a favor if you're scouting up this way...................if you see 6 or 7 of us fishing go somewhere else cause we suck!  Haven't heard a clicker in so long I forget what they sound like  :'(
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: Latimeria February 27, 2016, 07:49:19 p
I google earthed one of my spots recently and saw a huge helicopter on the beach!?!?  That doesn't mean you have to start looking for a helicopter now, but just a weird thing GE caught on a photograph fly-by.

I also saw 5 guys on a beach in LA with a 200 lb bat on the beach, but not sure how long ago that pic was taken.   :o ;D
Sorry guys, I couldnt help it.   ;D
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: WheresMyBeer February 27, 2016, 08:25:48 p
Saw that helicopter when I sent my friend a pin drop on where to meet up for surf fishing (perch). Thought that was pretty funny.
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: Fish Jerk February 27, 2016, 09:23:20 p
The best way I found to locate spots was to stick a gps tracker on Tom's car while i was down there for the grinner gather. I have a comprehensive list of all his secret spots now. ;D
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: Latimeria February 27, 2016, 09:25:57 p
: Fish Jerk  February 27, 2016, 09:23:20 p
The best way I found to locate spots was to stick a gps tracker on Tom's car while i was down there for the grinner gather. I have a comprehensive list of all his secret spots now. ;D

I don't even tell my wife where I fish as she can inadvertently spill the beans at work without realizing!  LOL
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: j.rasta February 27, 2016, 10:23:12 p
: Latimeria  February 27, 2016, 09:25:57 p
: Fish Jerk  February 27, 2016, 09:23:20 p
The best way I found to locate spots was to stick a gps tracker on Tom's car while i was down there for the grinner gather. I have a comprehensive list of all his secret spots now. ;D

I don't even tell my wife where I fish as she can inadvertently spill the beans at work without realizing!  LOL


Better hope she doesn't frequent the boards B)

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: lamnidae March 04, 2016, 07:56:17 p
I saw that helicopter too. Very odd.